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Berkaitan dng "memakai doktrin predestinasi untuk mengukur orang lain", saya menemukan beberapa tulisan ini, bro oda (bold dari saya):
Predestination is intended to be a teaching of the greatest comfort for Christians
- but only for Christians. Not predestination, but "the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" is to be preached to the lost.
It is most foolish to talk to non-Christians about predestination, for this teaching is not intended for them. Rather, unbelievers should be pointed to "Jesus Christ and Him crucified," to the Gospel that says that God offers reconciliation, forgiveness, and eternal life, to everyone who believes, regardless of their social status, race, sex, or past life (See John 3:16; 2 Corinthians 5:19; 1 John 2:1-2; Galatians 3:27). "He died for all" (2 Co. 5:15) is the message the non-believing world needs to hear.
http://www.orlutheran.com/html/trelect.html--------------------------------------
3) Luther believed that any debate, discussion, or argument over the doctrine of election should be avoided. He wrote:
A dispute about predestination should be avoided entirely... I forget everything about Christ and God when I come upon these thoughts and actually get to the point to imagining that God is a rogue. We must stay in the word, in which God is revealed to us and salvation is offered, if we believe him. But in thinking about predestination, we forget God . . However, in Christ are hid all the treasures (Col. 2:3); outside him all are locked up. Therefore, we should simply refuse to argue about election.
Such a disputation is so very displeasing to God that he has instituted Baptism, the spoken Word, and the Lord’s Supper to counteract the temptation to engage in it. In these, let us persist and constantly say, I am baptized I believe in Jesus. I care nothing about the disputation concerning predestination. Martin Luther did not know of the confusion and contentions that would later exist among Christians and the major heresies such as Universalism and the rebirth of Pelagianism that would arise as the result of the debates over the doctrine of predestination. If he had known, he most certainly would have reminded us of his words: "
For this you should know: All such suggestions and disputes about predestination are surely of the devil."
http://www.mtio.com/articles/aissar89.htm____________________________
Dan saya juga menemukan sumber tulisan calvin ttg predestinasi -->
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.v.xxii.htmlYg menarik dan berkaitan dng pembicaraan kita, bro oda, adalah bahwa tulisan tsb sangat "privat". Artinya, pinjam istilah bro oda, hanya untuk dirsen. Bahkan di situ ada semacam warning:
"For it is not right that man should with impunity pry into things which the Lord has been pleased to conceal within himself, and scan that sublime eternal wisdom which it is his pleasure that we should not apprehend but adore, that therein also his perfections may appear. Those secrets of his will, which he has seen it meet to manifest, are revealed in his word—revealed in so far as he knew to be conducive to
our interest and welfare."
" Let it, therefore, be our first principle that to desire any other knowledge of predestination than that which is expounded by the word of God, is no less infatuated than to walk where there is no path, or to seek light in darkness. Let us not be ashamed to be ignorant in a matter in which ignorance is learning. Rather let us willingly abstain from the search after knowledge, to which it is both foolish as well as perilous, and even fatal to aspire. If an unrestrained imagination urges us, our proper course is to oppose it with these words, “It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory,” (Prov. 25:27). There is good reason to dread a presumption which can only plunge us headlong into ruin."
Jadi, kepentingan dari doktrin predestinasi adalah kepentingan intern, bukan seperti "untuk mengukur orang lain".
Cheers
