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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2014, 03:25:37 PM »
Douay Rheims
1Jn 1:1    That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the word of life:

King James Version
1Jn 1:1    That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life:


Kalau saya lihat koq sama saja, kung

DRA  Romans 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins,

KJV  Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;


KJV lebih panjang Bro

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2014, 03:39:27 PM »
Artinya sama apa beda, kung?


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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2014, 03:52:51 PM »
Artinya sama apa beda, kung?


IMHO

Beda Om

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2014, 03:59:27 PM »
DRA  Ecclesiastes 11:1 Cast thy bread upon the running waters: for after a long time thou shalt find it again.

KJV  Ecclesiastes 11:1 Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days.


Yang satu airnya mengalir ... yang satu air saja

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Καὶ μὴ κρίνετε, καὶ οὐ μὴ κριθῆτε· καὶ μὴ καταδικάζετε, καὶ οὐ μὴ καταδικασθῆτε. ἀπολύετε, καὶ ἀπολυθήσεσθε· (Luk 6:37 BGT)

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2014, 04:22:46 PM »
jadi ikut2an googling  :'o

Quote

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Free Of Protestant Bias?

While translator bias is a fact to be contended with, Douay-Rheims Onlyists often accuse contemporary translations of being tainted by Protestant translations.

But there's another side to that story. Just as the original Douay came to influence the KJV, the KJV itself came to influence the Douay. Ward notes: "In nearly every case Challoner's changes took the form of approximating to the Authorized [i.e., King James] Version."

The fact is that Bible versions on both sides of the confessional divide influence each other. This is because serious translators don't read only works done by one side. Sometimes the other guys come up with a way of better capturing what's written in the original language, and when that happens the serious translator wants to know about it, not to hide his head in the sand.

All of this is not to say that the Douay-Rheims is a bad translation, or that it is not to be read, or that individuals may not prefer using it to other translations. It is only to indicate that the Douay-Rheims ought not be put on a pedestal.

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sudahlah, baca versi bahasa Indo saja  :whistle:
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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2014, 04:39:10 PM »
jadi ikut2an googling  :'o

sudahlah, baca versi bahasa Indo saja  :whistle:

Dalam hal ini saya dan Bro Salt pny kecocokan.

Sama2 memiliki Bible TEV

Soalnya ada gambar dan bahasa inggris nya mudah dimengerti

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Καὶ μὴ κρίνετε, καὶ οὐ μὴ κριθῆτε· καὶ μὴ καταδικάζετε, καὶ οὐ μὴ καταδικασθῆτε. ἀπολύετε, καὶ ἀπολυθήσεσθε· (Luk 6:37 BGT)

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2014, 04:47:38 PM »
Dalam hal ini saya dan Bro Salt pny kecocokan.

Sama2 memiliki Bible TEV

Soalnya ada gambar dan bahasa inggris nya mudah dimengerti

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ya ya yaa, kalo sepantaran memang biasanya cocok lahir batin  :giggle:
btw nga keliatan gambarnya kalo baca yg versi online yah
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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2014, 04:52:09 PM »
ya ya yaa, kalo sepantaran memang biasanya cocok lahir batin  :giggle:
btw nga keliatan gambarnya kalo baca yg versi online yah

Setuju ....

Cuman Bro Salt selalu nyamar ... nge klaim dirinya masih remaja


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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2014, 05:49:33 PM »
Lho memang masih baru lepas remaja koq. Masih muda dan lugu.

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2014, 06:26:01 AM »
DRA  Ecclesiastes 11:1 Cast thy bread upon the running waters: for after a long time thou shalt find it again.

KJV  Ecclesiastes 11:1 Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days.


Yang satu airnya mengalir ... yang satu air saja

 :P

Lho memang masih baru lepas remaja koq. Masih muda dan lugu.

:P


Ayoo Om BTT

tuh sdh saya tunjukkan bedanya

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2014, 10:58:33 AM »
Lantas apa yang dipergunakan oleh Alkitab LAI / LBI om?

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2014, 03:44:58 PM »
Lantas apa yang dipergunakan oleh Alkitab LAI / LBI om?

Waduhh ... bisa diperjelas ...
Maksud pertanyaannya ?


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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2014, 07:45:47 PM »
Air atau air mengalir?

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2014, 01:00:22 PM »
Naskah tertua ada di Vatikan, Codex Vaticanus, masih sangat orisinal, sangat dekat sekali dengan masa hidup para Rasul.

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Re: Kitab Perjanjian Baru
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2014, 01:14:38 PM »
Naskah tertua ada di Vatikan, Codex Vaticanus, masih sangat orisinal, sangat dekat sekali dengan masa hidup para Rasul.

Syalom

Mengenai naskah tertua .... memang diakui semua pihak Om Yopi.

Tapi ada juga pihak2 tertentu yang menyatakan Codex Vaticanus corrupt.


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